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The Nokia N8 Is Perfect, There, I Said It

on September 27, 2010 – 11:08 am57 Comments

If you’re a BMW car fan and you go ahead and buy a Mercedes Benz car because of one cool feature, then expect it to act like a BMW and get mad because it doesn’t, you’re an idiot. Stick to BMW, or accept the different approach. The same can be said about phones. You don’t buy a Blackberry and expect it to be 100% like an E71, you don’t get a Nokia 5800 XpressMusic and blame it for not having the iPhone’s multitouch. Every brand has their strengths, their weaknesses, their approaches, their concepts, their target audience.

That’s why, my friends, the Nokia N8 is perfect. I know well enough to accept that it’s not perfect for me because I like physical keyboards and I want medical applications. It’s not perfect for the iPhone/iOS hundreds of thousands of apps afficionados. It’s not perfect for many. But that doesn’t mean “it’s not perfect period”. It is. For its target audience, for those who adhere to the Nokia approach, to the touchscreen-only build form factor, to the slowly growing Ovi Store, those who need top-notch multimedia playback and recording features, those who take a picture of everything and anything in their life. The N8 IS perfect.

Last week, I finally had the chance to take the N8 in my hands for the first time. I had seen videos. I had read articles. But I was doubtful. For someone who has been using and suffering with Symbian^1 on a Nokia N97 Mini, I had lots of doubts. The N8 sheered them all away. Yes, the homescreen and menu look quite similar to Symbian^1 but it stops there. If you’re familiar enough with S60 5th Edition or Symbian^1, you’ll see all the difference in the world. It’s snappy for one. Like much more responsive. It looks more elegant too. Gone are the silly three buttons and top menu bar that took more than half the screen in landscape. And the camera is just a darling, even at night, check these photo samples I took. As for apps, I tried Angry Birds on it and the experience was exactly the same as on my iPod Touch. And the build quality? Oh. My. God. Lovely, just lovely.

Then I talked to people, reporters, journalists, techies, Nokia employees, about the N8. I asked them what they like about it, not what the press release or the marketing people told them to say. Steve Lewis, Head of Marketing MEA, explained how he takes pictures of his two children with the N8, and videos too. He said the presence of a dedicated Camera button and the short delay before it opens, lets him snap pictures/videos fast without having to fumble through menus to get to it, no matter what else he was doing on the phone. He also explained how, although he’s not a big user of the Dolby Surround, he uses the FM transmitter a lot while driving in his car. Mikko Aarras, Senior Designer, showed me the glass front that he likes as well as the way the anodized aluminum is made so that there’s a small visible metallic edge around every button (camera, volume) that shows how delicate the N8′s manufacturing is. He later explained to me how very happy about the Email and Social integration into the device he was. I had to fight with Adel Sartawi, Communications Manager for Nokia KSA & Yemen, over his N8 because he was too addicted to Angry Birds and wouldn’t let me play. I also caught Candice Turner, editor at Living Well Magazine, talking about how she thought the N8 would definitely appeal to the 18-30yr old age bracket, with its apps and social features. Then I had a long talk with Zeid Nasser, a technology and media writer and commentator, where he mentioned that Nokia still has the leading edge in terms of imaging in the smartphone segment, as well as how the Dolby Surround and the price range of the N8 make it a unique offering on the market. Zeid concluded that the “N8 is truly finally Nokia’s entrance in the high-end smartphone business”.

Overall, the same feeling kept coming back: Nokia still has the lead in multimedia, especially in imaging. Every other smartphone manufacturer is months if not a year or more away from offering anything similar. And still when they do, it won’t be packed in one single device like on the N8. So if that’s what you’re looking for, then don’t look at anything other than the N8. And I agree.

If you’re considering buying the N8 but hate the non-removable battery or the lack of a QWERTY; if you’re considering the N8 but want the bling effect of HTC Sense or Android OS; if you’re considering the N8 but are too stuck in the Apple iOS way, with minimal UI and tons of apps; if you’re considering the N8 but would also love top notch encryption and security for your mail and communications like on a Blackberry; if you’re considering the N8 but wondering what Meego or the N9 will offer … PLEASE do yourself and everyone else a favor and don’t get an N8.

But if you look at the N8′s multimedia features, at the endless possibilities a camera like this offers, if you’re happy with Nokia sticking its Social layer and Nokia Messaging on the device, if you love Ovi Maps and its free navigation, if you’re content with the way the Ovi Store is gathering pace but don’t need it to rush, then PLEASE, get an N8. You’ll love it. For you, it’s the most perfect device.

Don’t buy the N8 for what it isn’t. Buy it for what it is. The most perfect Symbian camera & multimedia phone to date.

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  • Smaual

    I have N8 since yesterday and i love it! And i think it’s a relief to use it (previous owner of iPhone 3GS and HTC legend).

    • Angad

      no htc legend user can say this… u r definitely lying…..

      • Roger

        No he’s not. Nobody’s trying to make anyone love the N8 that doesn’t want to. If you prefer something else that’s wonderful – everyone should have whatever phone they want to have, regardless of what it is. But…please do not form an opinion of the N8 without trying it…or are you scared you will fall in love with it too? ;-)

  • JTHC

    What an odd review. It’s like saying “This Honda Civic is the perfect car. Granted it’s positioned to compete against Audis and BMWs, and it has lousy controls, an underpowered engine and slow transmission, but its sound system is way more advanced than anything out there.”

    I don’t want to bust on the N8 too hard; it’s probably a great phone for a seasoned Nokia user, but it’s a failure as far as having the goods to take smartphone marketshare away from Apple or Google. People who are not accustomed to Symbian are not going to like the UI because it’s not intuitive or easy. iOS may be limited in its capabilities, but a 4-year-old can easily pick it up and use it.

    I know Nokia needed to release *something*, but how burned are N8 owners going to feel when the N9 w/ Meego comes out? Nokia’s already said that Symbian is a dead end on the high end… who wants to buy a device that is the end of the road?

    • Roger

      JTHC – you do realise that Nokia/Symbian have been pulling away from iPhone and Android for some time don’t you, and that that is accelerating?

      “each week there are 200,000 more Symbian phones out there than iPhones, and almost 500,000 more than Android. Symbian is not being caught and left behind, in terms of raw numbers they are pulling away by a significant percentage every single day.”

      http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/12083_How_many_phones_per_day_does_i.php

      You do also realise that Nokia/Symbian smartphone market share over the last year has grown while iPhone’s has shrunk (and these trends are continuing)?

      Also, you’re making statements like you’re some iPhone fanboy desperate to not have something better come along. Presumably you’ve given the N8 and Symbian 3 a good try-out before making these comments, e.g. used them solidly for a week?

      I guess not, eh?

    • HT

      Wow…wow u guys are thinking like phones are your life. Apple and google are great but they are not perfect so is Nokia. N8 is my first phone of nokia and sure it is a great phone. I think I heard symbian has been dead for like a decade,but still can’t even nokia still producing more symbian products after releasing a news of ending pipeline of symbian. What a failure of you my friend.Symbian 3 is a complete different one packed with better camera and unique features. Wow….every people can use symbian too don’t you think? may be only those who can’t understand basic usage of phone like call and end call LOL. iphone lacks many basic features and it is merely a app-centralised phone rather than that I can’t even make oen damn make calls,long one(like 30-40mins). Think about it world needs choices and exit,no need to be at the dead end with apple all d time. Cheers…..

  • Anti-Eldar

    Great phone not sure whats with so much negative bias heat this N8 is generating. Eldar’s blogs is a load of unfair bull**** along with Engadgetcom. iPhony nut huggers are like on a Steve Jobs asigned mission to degrade every new Nokia product released, its crazy.

  • Tariq

    People criticize the N8 for some software problems. Personally, I think Symbian is way better than those robots and iOSes, apart from the looks of course
    But as Jobs says, theres an app for that. In the case of symbian, its called a THEME.

    I saw some amzzing themes on some blog. It made the N8 look waaaaaay better than most Androids I have seen. But I dont have the link because I dont care.
    I am not some “a 4-year-old who can easily pick up an Iphone and use it.” I am far smarter than a 4 year old. Even smarter than a 16 or 20 year old for that matter! This is why I dont care what the UI looks like and go after functionality.
    Symbian is the best as far as functionality is concerned

    • TechG

      Yo nokia fan boy…. i understand you hate people depending what brand they spend money on… Good FOR YOU!!! but since you to scared to mention that though iProducts have better after sale service including the updates and return policy there are also androids in the competition…. With the New HTC sense coming along and motorola and samsung bringing the 1GHZ to God’s own country INDIA nokia needs to start working on N9 quick before S^4 ALSO becomes outdated….

      • Tariq

        Yo nokia hater! IF i was a fan boy, i would atleast BUY a symbian device! But I use an HP IpaQ!!!!!

        Why? again. FUNCTIONALITY! I am NOT a 4 year old robot who wants simple interfaces. The complicated, but EXTREMELY FAST AND FUINCTIONAL, not to mention plain and bland UI of the old windows mobile is good enough for me!

        I was just stating the obvious. Symbian us better in terms of functionality than most oses. I was able to multi task and install apps (loads of them) in my 6600. Android has only BEGUN to do that! And when you personalize symbian, its UI looks BETTER than any android device that I have seen.
        So before you start making any assumptions, understand that I DONT use symbian. I was just making an obvious observation.

        Another thing, I dont care what htc NON SENSE comes to India! Why would I? And as for 1GHZ. common. even you know why the N8 doesnt need that. But my Ipaq has about 500mhz. And it works just fine. In fact, because it does not hae fancy UI for 4 yr old children, the menus just open immediately and therefore, I can work pretty fast on it.
        Not only that. It has multi tasking and limited flash support.
        And did I mention. Its three years old?

        • TechG

          @Tariq Dude seriously u are on the 3yr old phone? wow..good for you…

          All of you think that the ones who say android, iOS, Maemo, MeeGo, BADA, Brew are better than Symbian^3 havent used it?
          well now if you say so i presume you know whats a SDK mean… well earlier this year nokia released a ans SDK for S^3 for the developers so they can test their apps on a virtual UI… I had seen the UI….

          @roger I know almost everything about the UI n i m in the postion to say its not qualified enough to for the price its up for…
          if look at the samsung wave, its a better in terms of UI and hardware and its way cheaper and better value for money than the N8 (except the camera)

          @Tariq you use a 3YR old phone n yur previous phone was 6600 so its ok if N8 looks like the god phone to you and you have no idea what a iPhone, a HTC Desire, Smasung Galaxy S, or even a motorola DROID can do…. and whats with the 4yr kid old stuff? how old are you? 5?

          @roger i agree there are more Symbian phones sold in the world than iOS and Android but if you compare it with how many are smartphone or high end phones? less than palm pre even…..which has a awesome OS (better than symbian)

          but since you havent read the IDC report the Symbian market share is FALLING not rising… you make false claims and post a link to that stupid website…. and if you look at the smartphone segment symbian is not even in the others….

          Also the apps you talk about.. angry birds, or EA NFS… well every OS has those and these are one of those apps which every manufacturers get them developed so users have atlease some thing to play with….

          Though Nokia is trying hard to get developers in their boat but developers dont find much scope in the OS as S^4 is coming next year and current line of nokia phone dont have the hardware for it (and dont start with the HDMI or 12MP camera i know N8 has it) and then there is a MeeGo line….

          So Mr. ALL-about-Symbian you give biased comments which are baseless and nothing to support your claims… Let me remind you at N8 launch the outer hardware was the highlight and everything revolves around it… and its not what i said but what nokia claims…. i have proof not like you

          according to an email from a former Nokia software engineer to Daring Fireball:

          “ Hardware Rules at Nokia. The software is written by the software groups inside of Nokia, and it is then given to the hardware group, which gets to decide what software goes on the device, and the environment in which it runs. All schedules are driven by the hardware timelines. It was not uncommon for us to give them code that ran perfectly by their own test, only to have them do things like reduce the available memory for the software to 25% the specified allocation, and then point the finger back at software when things failed in the field

          • Jaydee

            U do know the Symbian 4 upgrade is irrelevant to developers at this moment bcoz of Qt right..?? Ooh.. I’m pretty sure u don’t hence those comments.. Apple n Google’s Android can surely choose to ignore Qt but the relevance Qt brings to Nokia to put it back in the game can be ignored at their own peril, i assure u.. So pls stop commenting out of ur a$$ n quoting quotes from ANALysis that u alone like to hear from.. We don’t need to be reminded of a disgruntled ex-employee taking cheap shots for their own enhancement in their current endeavours.. There I said it..!

          • Tariq

            “@Tariq Dude seriously u are on the 3yr old phone? wow..good for you…”

            so you agree that a three year old has better functionality. no? too bad. you can live in denial.
            but my 3 yr old phone can actually multi task and send files by bluetooth.

            In any case, you have yet to respond to my argument:
            Symbian is as functional an OS as they come. and with proper themes and customisastions, you can make it extremely good looking and even easier and faster to use.
            I guess we have reached t a conclusion.
            Symbian is better than android in every aspect except that it doesnt have battery consuming flashy transitions which do nothing but look just a little bit better.

            If this non functional feature is the only reason you prefer iOS and Android over Blackberrys and Symbian, then your choice. go ahead, but dont come to other phones pages and start preaching.
            also, I suggest you get a palm. its webOS is as slick as Ios(meaning its waaaaaay better than android) but its almost as functional as symbian (again waaaay better than android)

            “All of you think that the ones who say android, iOS, Maemo, MeeGo, BADA, Brew are better than Symbian^3 havent used it?”

            actually I have used Android. And I have never use Maemo.
            but with my limited knowledge of maemo, I still think Maemo is better.
            In any case, it doesnt really mattter. Hardware is half the story, and the N8 packs everything

            “@Tariq you use a 3YR old phone”
            yes and its more functional and faster to use than an android.

            ‘n yur previous phone was 6600′

            I never said that. did I?
            ppl who assume everything are moslty wrong and ignorant.
            you see, they ASSUME everything. they dont think they have any reason to learn
            if you are the type of person who can learn, the learn THIS:
            there are ppl out there who have needs different from yours. so they will prefer to buy phones different from what you buy

            While I think flashy transitions are for children (nokia 5230 is good looking enough for me), I can understand other ppl who prefer them.
            i would buy the 5530, but its UI, unlike the N8, isnt intuitive.
            So I am saving for a Meego device.

            “so its ok if N8 looks like the god phone to you and you have no idea what a iPhone, a HTC Desire, Smasung Galaxy S, or even a motorola DROID can do….”

            like I said, you just assume things.
            and look at your stupid logic. I have a thre yr ld phone so I dont know what iphone, htc etc are like!
            CANT I BORROW?!!!!
            SHEESH!
            thats some logic.
            In my previous try, I typed small camparos of all the obove mentioned mobiles and compared them to N8 and why I prefer N8 over them.
            one of the points included the problems with Galaxy( the bug list was leaked) as well as screen problems with HTCs
            But for some reason my comment wasnt published and I am tying it again.
            So search it. The samsung article was in engadget along with other blogs, while HTC screen problems can be searched easily.
            Iphone? just go to any nokia or android forum :D

            “and whats with the 4yr kid old stuff? how old are you? 5?”

            see the previous posts. one guy said that even a 4 yr old can use android!
            well, even an 80 yr old can use nokia.
            anyways, the thing is that I bought those plastic sticks filled with fluid which, if bent, glows.
            I gave it to my 4 yr old nephew and the look of happiness on his face was priceless.
            Why>? it was bright and shiny. it was glowing, yes, but it was USELESS!
            no functional at all specially since it was daytime and we were indoors.

            So for me, android users are like my 4 yr old nephew. they buy phones which look good, but canr take proper pictures or transfer them via USB on the go.
            they also dont car about… forget it.
            I like N8s features. even the new series 40 touch fones have good looking interfaces. no not eve 10% of what android and ios have ofcourse, but they stll fulfill my requirements
            to tell you the truth, if the iphone and C3 where same price, id buy the C3 just for its keyboard.
            i dont like virtual keyboards.
            again. FUNCTIONAL
            you go buy ur android, but stop preaching here

            “@roger i agree there are more Symbian phones sold in the world than iOS and Android but if you compare it with how many are smartphone or high end phones? less than palm pre even…..which has a awesome OS (better than symbian)”

            smartphones? nokia has has a higher percentage of smartphones as comopared to the percentage of dumbphones.
            total market share is about 35% while smartphones where 39 according to reports at the it you posted this

            “but since you havent read the IDC report the Symbian market share is FALLING not rising… you make false claims and post a link to that stupid website…. and if you look at the smartphone segment symbian is not even in the others….”

            it has increased recently:
            http://www.canadianbusiness.com/markets/headline_news/article.jsp?content=b4810961&utm_source=markets&utm_medium=rss

            the link above is just a week old.
            nokias smartphone share is now more than 41% even though the report is about the time when N8s release was months away.
            now add N8, the phone with the largest pre orders in nokias history, and add E7, C6-01, C5 touch E7 and C7.

            the report for that would probably be released in second quarter of 2011.
            SO dont be surprised if the next report shows nokias share at 38 % and the one after that at 43.
            I wont be surprised.

            “Though Nokia is trying hard to get developers in their boat but developers dont find much scope in the OS as S^4 is coming next year”

            Qt???

            “and current line of nokia phone dont have the hardware for it (and dont start with the HDMI or 12MP camera i know N8 has it) and then there is a MeeGo line….”
            in case you havent noticed, angry birds and nfs work perfectly in 680 mhz. why waste battery life with 1Ghz?

            Also, nokias dedicated broadcom GPU provides better performance than iphones integrated one.
            Only Galaxys has better performance which is a waste considering the fact that N8 is enough.
            And N9 will have 1Ghz.
            now you ll say that there wll be 1.2 ghz, but if it has nokias efficient software, then why waste battery and money on 200 mhz? specially when 1 ghz will workd fine?(if the past is any guidance)

            “So Mr. ALL-about-Symbian you give biased comments which are baseless and nothing to support your claims… Let me remind you at N8 launch the outer hardware was the highlight and everything revolves around it… and its not what i said but what nokia claims…. i have proof not like you ”

            yeah yeah. whatever. dont preach here.
            i dont go around samsung pages and post links to its terribly embarrassing list of bugs. nor have i EVER been to an apple page and made fun of the stupid and insult-to-human-intelligence called facetime

            “according to an email from a former Nokia software engineer to Daring Fireball:

            “ Hardware Rules at Nokia. The software is written by the software groups inside of Nokia, and it is then given to the hardware group, which gets to decide what software goes on the device, and the environment in which it runs. All schedules are driven by the hardware timelines. It was not uncommon for us to give them code that ran perfectly by their own test, only to have them do things like reduce the available memory for the software to 25% the specified allocation, and then point the finger back at software when things failed in the field”

            that is pre meego

  • Rafael Roque

    I can’t wait to get mine; regardless of any review… Simply put; I don’t like Google’s intrusive OS, RIM’s mundane OS, Apple’s my way OS. If you want control of your smartphone; then Symbian gives you that. Point and case, if I want the Sense experience found on HTC’s Android smartphones on my Symbian phone, then I simply install SPB Mobile Shell and now I have 1-10 home screens with customizable widgets and shortcuts… If you can’t handle Symbian, then you might as well stick to feature phones.

    • TechG

      WOW…. you seriously dont know what android windows and iOS phones can DO? fyi htc sense is not about new home screen or widgets….. HTC is the ultimate user experience. For nokia hardware is the key a phone is not built around user experience….. i have proof…
      according to an email from a former Nokia software engineer to Daring Fireball:

      “ Hardware Rules at Nokia. The software is written by the software groups inside of Nokia, and it is then given to the hardware group, which gets to decide what software goes on the device, and the environment in which it runs. All schedules are driven by the hardware timelines. It was not uncommon for us to give them code that ran perfectly by their own test, only to have them do things like reduce the available memory for the software to 25% the specified allocation, and then point the finger back at software when things failed in the field”

      Nokia isn’t all that invested in user experience—which in smartphones increasingly equates to software experience. Software which, incidentally, Nokia could not care less about….

      Now when u make claims do it with supporting evidence… like apple and android are better than nokia i guess it applies non nokia fans and nokia fans….

      • Mark

        That’s proof? Go away, you silly little man.

        Why can’t you just accept that a lot of us have tried iOS and Android and just prefer Symbian? I know they’re a bit smoother but not to the extent that I’m willing to sacrifice call quality or battery life for a bit of bling.

        Grow up. Choice is good. You’ve made yours, allow us the courtesy of making ours.

        • tariq

          haha! well said Mike.
          I couldnt have said it better.
          Android an iOS have these flashy transsition effects. In fact, iOS is the KING of these transitions, but facetime?
          haha. thats a BIG joke.
          I’ rather buy the N95 my cousins is replacing than go after apples IOS.
          same goes for battery wasting, partial flash, partial mulit tasking, hard ware failure androids.
          Neither HTC, Motoroll nor samsung come even close to nokia hardware quality ir quality control.
          The N8s alluminium construction simply blows the others away. Ad to that its USB on the Go, 12 Mp camera and better HDMI experiance simply makes puts it in another league.
          And we also have that good battery life.

          I dont need some flashy transitions to make me feel better.
          Well, some ppl do, and they will buy android, so good for them.
          but this techG appears not to understand this fact, that ppl have different priorities.

        • Tariq

          Oh, and techG
          If you really like UIs so much, then get WP7
          no it has no copy paste, so I would rather keep an N96 rather than WP7 despite the fact that I still use Windows Mobile, but next year they will issue an update to fix that and after that this dell venue will suddenly seem like an attractive alternative to Android

  • Harkaran

    Well coz i think of a better answer i found a website and decided to post it instead….
    techgoggles(;)DOT :D)in/index(;)DOT:D)php/nokia-n8-review :)

  • Angad

    I went to the nokia store with my iphone 3gs(white) and Motrola Milestone …. i comapred the the two phones… the UI looked cheap… camera was good…. and the browser showed lag… specially during multitouch…

    but the best part was when i kept the three phone together and was comparing them then asked the people who were there that which phone they liked the most,60% liked the milestone 39% liked the iphone and 1% were the people who worked there….. and the manager who worked there also inquired about the price of these two phone and was shocked when i told him that milestone was cheaper and these phone are a year old…..

    • Tariq

      did you tell them that the iphone does not have bluetooth file transfer? but N8 has btooth 3.0?
      or that iphone has yet to get a proper second camera(facetime is for foolish ppl)
      how about usb on the go? or good battery life? maybe a phone that doesnt break when dropped from 3 feet is actually more usable? or is it better to buy a REALLY expensive and bwautiful iphone, and then cover it up? doesnt that defeat the purpose?

      Lets not even start with the iphones fake camera

      • Angad Singh

        N8 has a poor battery life…. its only 1200 mAh,

        • http://www.fonearena.com Varun Krish

          Yeh .. Although it has only 1200mAh battery . It’s lasting quite good for day to day usage

        • tariq

          N8 has a poor battery life…. its only 1200 mAh.

          here we have another loony who does not understand that numbers are not everything.
          just like TechG is not old enough to understand that Mhz isnt everything, you cant understand that mah isnt everything

          but I dont blame you. most ppl dont understand that Mps arent everything either.

          - Mhz is not everything because there is something called ‘software requirement’. there is another thing called a GPU

          - mah isnt everything because there is something called ‘energy efficiency’. we also have amoled screens which consume less power as well as nokis excellent power management settings.
          on top of that, we have nokias new Clear Black Display on the E7 and C7 which goive excellent clarity, but unlike S- Amoleds, they dont consume exorbitant amounts of power
          (you listening TechG? or is all this too complicated for you to understand?

          - Mega Pixels arent everything either. Although the N8 DOES have 12 mps, i would consider it good enough even if it had only 8. why? because the sensor is important.
          N8 has 1/1.83 sensor size compared to other camera phones 1/1.25+
          even Sonys 16 MP has a smaller sensor

  • TechG

    @Tariq…Dude wow!!! Though everything and anything you said was complete and utter nonsense… and you have no idea about the differences between the OS’s and UI’s and you call symbian better than Web OS… i doubt u use that HP phone… i think u wanted that phone but your parents thought its a waste for a 5yr old so they got you a S40 instead…. and then u saw N8 and you were blown away….

    and either you or your friend from the website allaboutsymbiandotcrap said that iphone is bad coz even a 4yr old can use it…. and that the phone should be complex…. are u serious? i mean how depressed are you dude? u like complex phones that make simple job irritating, and a waste of time…. u like the old windowsphone UI and yur dream phone is the 6600..

    • tariq

      “Though everything and anything you said was complete and utter nonsense…”

      we will let other readers decide that!

      “and you have no idea about the differences between the OS’s and UI’s”

      yeah. ur the smart one here.

      “and you call symbian better than Web OS”
      Best OS list:

      1- WebOS
      2- Symbian 3
      3- WP7
      4- Android
      5- Blackberry
      6- IOS

      This is my personal list. you can make yours.
      And i am waiting for meego to pas judgement.
      Maemo I wont include since its discontinued, otherwise I would difficulty deciding if its better than WebOS or not.
      So you have been exposed as a liar. I never said WebOS is better or not.
      If I dont buy like Meego, then the only other phone I will buy is the pre plus, or what ever the new one is called.

      “… i doubt u use that HP phone…”

      see. thats the thing. you think you just know everything.

      ” i think u wanted that phone but your parents thought its a waste for a 5yr old so they got you a S40 instead….”

      blah blah blha blah blah
      no on care what you think. and no one care about your inferiority complex either.
      And why are you so jealous? there are some 6 billion ppl on this planet. a few of the prefer HPs functionality and excellent hardware over ur crap IOs. so why are you so jealous?
      did I say you shouldnt buy Android? or that you never used one?
      are you an apple share holder?
      why are you sooooo insecure?

      have you ever tried customizations on symbian.

      ” and then u saw N8 and you were blown away….”
      yeah. thats why i am not buying it.
      personally, I dont really like the N8 that much, I mean E7 is better
      But I dont use symbian now that i have that HP. I was just pointing out the fact that symbian has certain advantages over android and ishit.
      I will be waiting for another comment from you which will expose what kind of a lunatic you are. you have done a good job already, but I am sure you wil do even better next time

    • tariq

      “u like complex phones that make simple job irritating, and a waste of time…. u like the old windowsphone UI and yur dream phone is the 6600..”

      since the above comments are untrue, you are either a patalogical liar or delusional.
      so which one is it?