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Thoughts from Hell: The Nokia N8

on May 2, 2010 – 1:25 pm34 Comments

I was begging, swearing, crying and whatnot for Nokia to finally bring out a REAL successor to the holy Nokia N82 for a loooong Time. You know i love my N82. It’s what i call a real Photography Flagship. A fantastic 5 Megapixel Camera with Charlie Zeiss inside, and most importantly, a Xenon Flash. Maybe you read my Top 9 Phones in 2009 Post, over at my Thoughts from Hell Blog, to get the Idea where the Love comes. I still use it whenever i go on the Road and know i might be able to snap some quick Pictures. The N86 came out and i never even touched it. Why? Simple, not much Innovations. It was a prettified N85 with an 8MP Camera on Top, with a Dual LED Flash. On a so called Photography Flagship. I do know the N86 has made some pretty darn well Pictures, but i can’t go along with the Term “Flagship” on a Device that sports nothing really innovative. I only had my Hands on one shortly and never even thought about trialing one.

And then came the N8. Silently announced on Tuesday, April 27th, it raised a lot of Eyebrows with a Series of fantastic new Features and great Specs. And in my Opinion, it also looks great. My following Points are made entirely of what i saw on the Internet so far – I did not see the N8 in the wild so far.

Gotta say one Thing though, it’s a shame that the N8 did get bashed the Day before the Launch. I would’ve appreciate a basic Review, about what we can expect, but not a simple bash, based on a Proto Device that got leaked about 5 Months before the actual Release Date. Neither Hardware or Software is near Final, so how the Heck would you know how the actual Retail Device will turn out to be, Mr. Eldar? I followed your Work for a long Time, but this Time you really messed up, it killed the Anticipation for the N8, your Words have affected a lot of Guys i talked to, without an actual Point. Disappointing Eldar, really disappointing, this screams unprofessional.

Well, back to the N8 again, seriously, how awesome does this one look? I’m not big on Designs normally, and as long as the Insides are great, i can live with an ugly Device as well, but the N8, for me, does both. My Colour of Choice? Orange. Fits like a Glove, looks fantastic, and it will be mine for the following Reasons:

12 Megapixel Camera with Xenon Flash + 720p HD Video Recording: Ever since the N82 became slowly outdated, i begged for a worthy Replacement, and here it is. I know Megapixels aren’t everything, and Nokia obviously listened to us, by giving us a bigger Sensor as well. First Sample Pictures already look fantastic and with the Xenon Flash, you should be able to get a fantastic Imaging Experience. When it came to Camera Comparisons, Nokia  has always won in my Book, and judging from the Samples, Nokia pulls this Win off as well! Another first here, is 720p HD video recording. Have you seen that Video Sample? Holy Smokes! So its not like at Sony Ericsson, where i have to pick either Imaging or Video Device, i just have both. Love it!

Symbian^3: Yes, i admit it, although i rambled a lot about Symbian in the Past, i like the Fact that the N8 comes with Symbian^3. Why? Well, its simple, let me explain: I know most of you would’ve rather seen Meego than Symbian. Symbian^1 was a Disaster and had a lot of Mistakes and Dont’s. But what Nokia did was giving us Symbian^3 and from the Videos (and the class People of Symbian on Twitter), it seems like most of the Mistakes are erased. I absolutely ran wild on the crappy Single/Double Click Situation in the OS, and according to Symbian, its all gone and everything is Single Click. It’s also obvious that the UI got a big Speed Boost, so alth0ugh only 680MHz, the Experience should be a good One. To wrap up the Symbian^3 Part: I’d rather take a working, good running Symbian^3, than a half-assed Meego Release, cause we all knew where it leads to, when you bring out something too quick! (see: N97)

On Top of that, the Nokia N8 brings some cool new Features in the OS, which are such simple Things, but never made it to previous Models. For example: Smart Dialing = Dial the Number that corresponds to the Letters he starts with, and the Phonebook automatically start to search for the Contact. Simple Feature, been in E-Series for a long Time, makes Life a lot easier. Or how about the rumored Facebook Integration? Wouldn’t it be awesome to send a Direct Message to one of your Facebook Contacts, directly from the Contacts App??

Or how about the new, 3 Homescreens? Or how about separated Mail Widgets for each Mailbox you have set up on your Device?! Pinch & Zoom in not only Pictures, but Web Browser and more? The Music Player also got a nice Overhaul, complete with Coverflow Integration, which is awesome for every Music Lover! Another Feature that needed a Major Overhaul is the rather crappy Multitasking Menu from Symbian^1. The new Menu features some very nice Previews of the Apps that are currently running, making the whole Experience a lot better! Man, i can’t wait to try this!

Display Solution: 3,5″ Screen. Capacitive. Multitouch. I can’t tell you how glad i am that Nokia went away from the resistive Screens and is now working with those Kinds. Say what you want, but i still think Capacitive Screens are far superior than resistive Ones. I remember with Horror of the first Screens they used in 5800 or N97. It got a lot better on N900, in fact that was the best resistive One i used so far. However, i still consider capacitive as my favourite Kind of Display. I could now go on and rant about having “only” nHD Resolution (640×360 Pixels) on the N8, instead of WVGA (800×480 etc), but i doubt one would notice really. Oh and have you heard? They use OLED Screens on the N8, so crisp Colours and a better Battery Life should be assured. Bravo Nokia, Bravo.

Isn’t the orange N8 awesome?

USB on the Go/miniHDMI Connector: Both of those Features i consider as  a definitive Win. The Possibilities are endless. Watching 720p Videos you did with your N8, or the Pictures in high Resolution on your Flatscreens? And here the absolute best Part for Movie Freaks like me: Support for .mkv-Files, which is normally used for HD-Rips. This, and hopefully Divx Support should make the absolute Entertainment Package for me. Whats USB on the go, you ask? Ha! Glad you did. USB-on-the-Go is an Adapter+Function that enables you to connect your external HDD (with external Power Supply) to your Nokia N8 and browse the Files you have on there, directly from your Phone. I mean seriously, how awesome is that?

WebTV: Another interesting Debut will be the WebTV Service that Nokia is now offering. On-Demand Content from CNN, Paramount or National Geographic on your Phone sounds pretty handy and I’m eager to try this out. Could be Lots of Fun when on the Road..

Material Choice: Go away filthy Plastic! The Nokia N8 is made of one Piece of Aluminium. Besides of good Looks, this guarantees, that the Phone will be extremely solid and well made. I can’t wait to feel that. I’d take Aluminium over Plastic any Day of the Week and here’s hoping Nokia keeps that up on future Releases as well! But, that Form Factor Choice brought a Downside with it, and you will read down below, what that is.

Okay, so those were some of the good Points i see from the Nokia N8. It may sound a bit fanboy-ish but i have to admit that its been a very long Time since I’ve been THAT excited about  an upcoming Phone, let alone from Nokia. However, looking through the Specs Sheet, i also found some Headscratchers, like:

Processor: Here where i live it’s 2010 already but i don’t see that from Nokia’s Choice to only put 680MHz in the N8. Symbian^3 is a lightweight OS i’ve been told, and maybe the Space isn’t too much with the big Cam Part and whatnot, but it could be really more. I don’t know how real-life performance will look like, especially with loads of Pictures, Music and whatnot loaded, but.. I don’t know. I was just hoping for a bit more Juice. I just hope the Battery Life will deliver, for the Sake of a faster Processor.

Built-in 1200 mAh Battery: Did Steve Jobs buy Nokia or what? Okay, its another Thing about the Space here, but there are far better Solutions in my Opinion. You can not access the Battery in Case something happens, and 1200 mAh are not exactly a Burner. This could’ve done better Nokia.

256 MB of RAM: Seriously? Come on..

Nokia is pretty late: I think I speak out what everyone thinks here. Nokia really is far behind. Not only in bringing out a Camera Flagship Device, but rather in impressing People. Looking through Nokia’s current Portfolio makes me think which Year it is. The only Device that attracts me as far as i would buy it, is the Nokia N900. And then what? Sure, X6 or C5 are also quite nice Devices, but are those able to compete with iPhone or HTC Desire? Hmm, i dont think so. And now the N8 is even delayed and only supposed to come out in September. Ouch. With the Frequency at which HTC is currently blasting out awesome Phones, one can only think what they have in Store, at the Time when Nokia starts shipping the N8, let alone Meego Flagship Hammers. For me it’s clear, Nokia needs to work faster, more accurate in Order to reduce the Time from the Launch of the Device, to the actual Release. It’s just too much currently, and i seriously hope the N8 and following Phones will not disappoint.

So far, this is my Take on the Nokia N8. Of course the Processor/Battery/RAM are not exactly groundbreaking, but on the other Hand, Nokia never said that this is going to be THE next Flagship by any means.. It will be the new Imaging Jesus Phone of Course, but I’m confident Nokia has some more hot Irons in the Fire, which will have Upgrades in above mentioned Departments.

The Nokia N8 will be my next Phone. I say it as it is and admit that i fell in Love with it, at the Moment it was launched. (or even when it leaked). It has a sensational Piece of Camera, (should) have great Build Quality and with a capacitive Screen and sorted out Symbian OS, this Thing scores big Time with me. The Advantage over Meego I have (for now), that eventual Bugs are sorted out and all my Apps should run just fine. Besides that, I’m a Hobby Photographer and love to snap quick Pictures wherever I am, and the N8 seems to be perfect for doing that.

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Michael Hell, Austria, Mobile Phone Freak, social networked Fella, down to earth and always up for new Challenges. Also blogging on www.thoughtsfromhell.net, which is my private Blog for Things like Photography and personal Things :) Feel free to add me on http://twitter.com/michaelxhell or http://www.facebook.com/michaelhell

  • CwMbest

    Absolutely agree. All blog are crying, oh the N8 is shit and Nokia misses sth.-but hey- a) Nokia saw that Symbian is an OS, a lot of people hate, so they developed Maemo. S60v5 was crap and Nokia saw that. b) The specs are very good for a smartphone, which is not aiming at being a highend flagship. c) Symbian is not as battery-, and RAm sucking as other OS. Come on, the N8 is a cool thing. (WE Nokia Symbain users lived with 128 MB of RAm, so i think its enough)
    The only thing, which is annoying, that Nokia launches their phones sooo late and their first FW Releases are soooo buggy. Hope, they will get that fixed in 2010.

  • http://twitter.com/_bjorn _bjorn

    Nice article Michael. The only ‘downside’ I see at this time is the OLED screen. Our N86, which also sports an OLED screen is barely, if not impossilble to read in direct sunlight. What I’ve understand so far is that the N8′s screen is performing better in those conditions, I do have doubts untill I’ve seen it IRL. Nevertheless, this device will be the successor of my E71 for what I’ve seen and read so far. Thanks for your thoughts and informative post.

  • Mark

    Hi,

    You do know that even though the clock speeds are different, the ARM 11 @ 680 will fly? Think about it, the droid runs at 580/600, so does the N900. Snapdragon CPU sounds cool but does not perform 1,6 times as good as OMAP @ 600. The the GPU is a factor as well.

    Correct?

  • TJ

    Yes,the main concern is What HTC will bring in September after launching Google Nexus One,Desire and Evo 4G already,The ideal time to release it should have been around June-July

  • VICTOR

    Man, you hit everything right on the nail with this review. Even without having the N8, actually. I also love this phone(it’s still called a phone, no?) and really gonna get one. Though, as you’ve said, the Processor/Battery/RAM will be a letdown with such a wonderful device. Is it possible Nokia can stil improve those letdowns before it hits the stores?
    I really hope you get one quickly and do a comprehensive and detailed review of the Nokia N8.
    By the way, I don’t know about the Orange one but I think the Yellow one rocks!

  • shaun

    Yea I agree this is a kl phone to get if there is nothing better by September or if your a photo fanatic. If they bring out an N9 with an 8MP camera, xenon flash, 64GB, beefed up battery, and processor then I’d probably get that instead. Though im glad they’ve gone back to putting in a GPU, should make a huge difference if they use it well. I hope it lives up to its 2days of music claim would be a serious win.

  • Michael Hell

    Thanks for your Reflections. I agree on every Point you say, but Nokia has a lot of Time left to fix all Bugs, so i hope Symbian^3 will be a Pleasure from Day 1!

  • Michael Hell

    thanks for reading!
    well OLED screens are supposed to work good in direct Sunlight, so i have high hopes. will see if i get to know more from the Nokia Guys who already have it

  • Michael Hell

    correct, and as i said, i can only wait and see for the first Retail Units in Action. :) but well, we can always dream a bit, right?

  • Michael Hell

    totally agree. would love to see an early release, but i’m always worried about those. I dont really want the N8 to turn out as another fail

  • Michael Hell

    thanks a lot, apppreciate the comment! :)

    well, i doubt there will be hardware changes, but then again, Symbian OS should really fly. with all the improvements and some new gimmicks, it should be a lot of fun to use.

    and yes, trust me, i’m trying to get my hands on one ASAP!

  • sam

    nice article.
    i just say, when you want to built master piece then money don’t matter. so why 256 ram, why 600mhz, why 60 GB and why 1200mh battery.
    new company can built better phone then n8, if it give equl chance like nokia
    so growup nokia.
    useless phone n8,except for photo graphers and who want record video.

  • Manu

    Can’t agree more !!!
    It appears as if someone else has pen down my views. Congratulations for writing a perfect article in every sense of the word. :-)
    Though I read tons of reviews but the simplicity, vividness, authencity & genuine nature of content found here is unique & makes it one of the best in tech world blogs.

  • miki69

    great article, besides obvious pros and cons, it all comes down to this: will new OS impress people, in particular current S60 5th users or not. This will by large “shape” N8 destiny.

    Cheers,
    Miki

  • Michael Hell

    thats what the N8 is aimed for i guess. I believe Nokia WILL have better Phones for us, the Question will be when!

  • Michael Hell

    wow, thank you very much! really really appreciate the nice words! :) this means a lot!

  • Michael Hell

    depends on what people are expecting, as i said. i have high hopes in it as new photography device, but from the OS i expect a rather solid experience than big, mindblowing innovations. i expect that in meego

  • Mace

    Processor/RAM/Battery numerology does not have any meaning to end user, only thing that matters is how the device actually performs. If the device is blazing fast (Nokia says 60 fps, as fast as iPhone 3GS), probably faster than 1GHz Snapdragon in real life situations, isn’t it what matters, not the amount of MHz in specs. Anyway, N8 has super fast GPU which is used in graphics anyway. You don’t need 1GHz for opening your sms. Same thing with battery, if 1200 mAh provides you already world’s longest operating time, why to make device bulkier and more expensive by using 1500 mAh? And RAM is double compared to N97, furthermore S^3 is able to use sort of on-demand paging which greatly reduces risks of running out of memory.

    I do not understand this number game that especially Americans are fond of. Like in cars, only Americans think house wife needs a 3-ton truck with 300hp V8 engine to get diapers from local store.

  • http://unwiredview.com Staska

    About those Eldar’s impressions, the main problem was that they were blown way out of proportion.

    Yep, he had a rant, that he does not like N8, he’s disappointed with the progress in N8 UX, old fashioned/S60 based UI, and the crap of inconsistent shortcuts, menu items, app directory placements that plagued Nokia devices for ages.

    But that was a short rant, in a weekly column, in Russian, on a Russian site… Not a review, not a preview, just a rant of random impressions on the state of things at Nokia, as he sees it. And not much more, then the things he already tweeted +some pictures.

    Who knew that every tech site will pick that up, and then blow it way out of proportion, based on faulty Google Russian/English translation.

    And, Nokia execs might have added their own bit to this whole mess. With the statements, that Symbian^3 is THE big transformative OS upgrade for Nokia. S^3 is the OS where they will finally get it right, have been working since N97 to get it right. And Symbian^4 is much easier/smaller upgrade, compared to the effort they invested in S^3. All of which might be true, but are hidden from the user by legacy S60/Avkon UI stuff. (Nokia’s OPK made those statements during Q1 results conference call, just 4 days before Eldar’s rant).

  • Sam

    RAM is double compared to N97, furthermore S^3 is able to use sort of on-demand paging which greatly reduces risks of running out of memory ?????
    compare this way,N97 not made for HD video and when you use Windows OS (which has paging system)you still need more RAM. and this n8 has 3D graphic. in this way I think RAM Need more…
    And for playing HD videos and good graphic Games and taking Photo with flash You need More Battery(OR need extra battery which was not possible for this N8)

  • http://twitter.com/ovijade Jade Bryan Jardinico

    N96 + N82 + X6 = N8

  • http://twitter.com/ovijade Jade Bryan Jardinico

    wrong…it should be 96-82-6=8

  • Dr Amit JOhari

    i m getting excited day by day after reading lot of articles on N8 , but i really doubt–
    1. Price will be approx 22k for india.
    2. that it will be available any time before 2011 first quarter in india.

  • Virendra Prajapati

    IT IS THE GREAT PHONE.

  • Ram Rao

    1) Why is there no lens cover+camera switch, like the N82 ?
    2) Is the N8’s Xenon flash as bright and powerful as that of the Nokia N82 ?
    3) The lens focal length is 5.4 mm( That is equivalent to a 28 mm wide angle on a 35mm SLR). How does the Xenon’s narrow beam cover the wide field of view of the N8’s 5.4 mm lens ? Won’t there be light drop off and vignetting?
    4) One hears that the aperture iris is FIXED at f2.8 !!! wtf? The venerable Nokia N82 could vary its aperture from f2.8 to
    Don’t you need it to go from f2.8 to f16 or f22, depending on light available? What if one wanted to shoot a brilliantly lit landscape in bright sunlight? A neutral-density (ND) filter can attenuate the light to avoid overexposure, but the f2.8 aperture will yield shallow depth-of-field.

  • TJ

    guys while surfing today got to know the price of Nokia N8, calculating it to indian price it comes out to be 34k or 740$ including taxes, here is the link:::

    Got to say terribly disappointed, u can get HTC desire or Nokia N900 for less than that..
    Now whether its final price or not it remains to be seen.

  • Fahim

    bro tats not charlie zeiss its carl zeiss anyway thnx for the post

  • http://www.fonearena.com Varun Krish

    Tarun , the phone is not yet launched anywhere in the world . Very likely this is a scam site. Price of N8 is expected around Rs.22K according to a statement by Nokia

  • Michael Hell

    actually it was a little joke.. ;-) i know its carl zeiss.. hehe

  • Michael Hell

    no camera expert unfortunately ..

  • http://twitter.com/ovijade jade bryan

    wow. camera expert here.

    1. Nokia wants to make their N8 slim. From being robust to aesthetic.
    2. Yes, Nokia mentioned it is as bright as the old Xenon but 30% less in size.
    3. I think making the sensor larger to 1/1.83″ will help to manage the wide-angle feature as more dots will receive and process the photons that enters and on proportion to the Xenon, they said the fixed aperture is more sensitive to light compare on the N86. Plus there is a focus light to assist the Xenon to avoid over exposure.
    4. As I said before they want to save space and they let the large sensor to be the pivot – eliminating variable aperture.

    For the aperture, they made it f2.8 and not f2.4 that we’ve seen on N86. Just because they gave the main reason on this and that is the bigger sensor. I’m not an expert on the camera section and I hope I helped you.

  • Is my name really that important ?

    @Ram Rao
    I heard the lens on the camera is scratch proof and is pretty strong..(: It was tested and didnt even get damaged.

  • http://infosecnd.logu2.com Nikhil Duggal

    I can’t believe there’s actually some one like me after all these hours of reviews and search.

    Micheal, I’m surprised and happy to find another user who focuses on camera and XENON Flash (can’t do without Xenons) when looking for a phone (I always thought I was all alone in this respect).

    I lost my N82 last week and have been looking for a worthy replacement.

    Most of the review sites have bashed N8 for its UI, speed, etc.

    But why are people ignoring the best thing about this phone – Xenon Flash with 12 megapix.

    My criteria for phones has always been Xenon Flash. (SE k810i, N82 and now hoping N8)…

    And mind you iPhone lovers, I’m not a Nokia Fan boy.

    I took time adjusting from the ultra amazing, bug free and fast UI of Sony Ericsson (k810i) to N82 Symbian which is full of bugs (my new phone crashed and restarted on the first day when I used Nokia Maps). I also noticed that the N82 is very slow as compared to k810i.

    But I didn’t care much. Cos it’s the camera and music that worked for me. Not the applications. Not the UI, speed, memory, etc. And to use the camera and music, the speed and UI were sufficiently fast.

    Even before buying anther buggy Symbian phone by Nokia (N8), I know there’ll be times when I’ll be disappointed with the speed, OS crashing, etc. but as compared to the happy memories I would have captured with amazing quality using the N8, I guess it’s a small price to pay.

    I don’t care much about internet, UI seems sufficiently fast to me (as per video reviews and my usage), I don’t do multi tasking and I only like to point and shoot pics.

    After reading your review, I’m definitely going to get one soon (although I had already made up my mind but still wanted to see a satisfying review :) )

    Cheers and hope you enjoy the phone…

    Lastly for everyone b*tching about N8, tell me which software you’ve bought has ever been perfect??? Doen’t XP/Vista/7 ever crash? Never heard of BSOD? Bugs and issues in MAC???

    It’s all about what you want and what are your expectations from the money you invest!!!!!

  • Prof. P O J Lebba

    I bought a Nokia N8 phone from a Dubai shop in April 2011.I am happy with its performance except for the following defects:
    1. The Battery gets exhausted even with normal use as a phone when compared with my earlier models of Nokia.
    2.The touch screen refuses to respond frequently.
    I have been using only Nokia phones in the past. That is why I purchased a Nokia N8.
    Prof. P O J Lebba.